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After Discovering the Treason and Treachery Infiltrated Into the Adventist Denomination, Should You Join an Independent Ministry?

 

Generally speaking, the answer is NO!!

 

Why? . . .

 

 

 

Part of the explanation was already given in the article dealing with whether or not the Adventist Church should allow her members to question her doctrines.


The services of these independent ministries that the denomination is always critical about do not have a price tag. Yes, they do need your support and should get it. You are far more guaranteed that your money would be used toward advancing the work of God, rather than to destroy it. The lawsuits now being staged by the denomination against the independent ministries are being funded by your tithe! Please do not be deluded into thinking that you have no responsibility to bear because of this! But we still address the point that transferring membership to an independent ministry should be a last resort action, though you need to support them with your resources. We have already seen by now that the denomination, though claiming that they are not perfect, will refuse to stop sending pastors to force churches to change to the celebration worship style. We have seen that they absolutely refuse to give up their apostasy. Therefore you need to consider that the independent ministry leaders are superhumans and infallible, for they accomplish what the denominational leaders are telling us is impossible: they deal with their problems and don't use their resources to attack those who point them out.


If you however have transferred your membership to an independent ministry, understand that this is not a condemnation against those who attend the religious services held by the independent ministries. We all know that the denomination cries out a great deal about members who desire to go to a place that more thinks and believes like God's people have always believed, and have not accepted cultic ideas. We all know that the independent ministries are not having any problem with the issue of womens ordination, nor homosexuals, nor ecumenism unlike the denomination. Still we are guaranteed that even if more than 75% of the current members decide to join up with an independent ministry, that will not stop the conspiracy played out against the Adventist people by the denomination.


Common sense tells the denomination to even have meetings in order to figure out what is causing the great distrust so that situations can be alleviated. But they do not do this, because they already know what is causing the disaffection, and they have no intention of stopping what they are doing for the pope. When they therefore do have meetings, it is not to get to the bottom of the disaffection in order to relieve the situation: it is to inspire trust of leadership in telling the members to stick by their pastors in the conspiracy and not to tear them down.


There are many people who have good reason to attend the services of the independent ministries, or who stage home churches. I cannot have any quarrel with those, and neither will I tell those to go back. But there are some issues that need to be looked at by those considering this move before anyone decides to do that.


I believe that we have already explained what takes place when members are unsettled from their own churches due to a Conference sponsored attack against the worship format of their particular churches. Ministers would enter their churches and demand that the worship style change. They will begin making the changes, often before anything is even decided in board meetings to establish it. A fight will break out with the veteran members who are not used to and don't want to get used to popery. The new ministers will become critical and judgmental, they will publicize condemnations upon the loyal members and will inevitably arrange for the church board to separate them from their own churches. At that time, and often well before, those veteran members will leave in protest in order to join up with an independent ministry.


When the pastors find out that those veteran members are leaving, THIS WILL MAKE THEM VERY HAPPY. It has been done!


They will often pretend that nothing has happened, and yet when called to give a statement, they often do not fail to mention how that the church would be better without those critical members who are so lacking in Christ. They will then continue snugly knowing that they have less opposition against their plans.


Here you therefore have a major part of the explanation why it is generally not good to move your membership to an independent ministry just like that. When you leave in protest, the invaders experience less opposition for their plans. If you therefore understood what their plans are, you would think twice before you leave your original place of worship.


Remember, they are transforming the whole denomination to a new and ecumenical product. If you ask them if this is true, they will naturally lie to you first before they take the next breath, for to take a breath for them is harder than for them to lie. When that product is finished, IT WILL THEN SEEK TO DESTROY THOSE INDEPENDENT MINISTRIES AND WHEREVER ELSE THE TRUTH IS FOUND. It will not remain content with taking over the denomination.


Remember that the very movement for Vatican Celebration could have established their own new churches, since they told us that they merely want for everyone to see and try out their movement. As soon as our backs were turned, they demonstrated their real talent by moving to take over every existing church that wasn't a celebration church. Their purpose therefore is to TAKE OVER all our churches, claiming to preach Christ ONLY so that we be muzzled from our prophecies which point out their Pope.


If you must leave, the best time to do that therefore would be after you have raised up enough of an issue of what is taking place so that all the members can see beyond the deception and understand what is being forced upon them. Then when you are convinced that the MEMBERS have decided against keeping the established order that God had given and have decided to go celebration, THEN you actually need to leave.


If you are therefore plagued by the unbearable apostasy in your church witnessed by yourselves and your children, HOLD TIGHT AND DO THE RIGHT THINGS FIRST! Raise up an issue and make that issue be just as quickly and strongly pressed as is your desire to leave the contaminating influence! Once pressed and rejected, be free to leave in good conscience.


Other than that, and for other issues involving distance or other situations dependent on the judgment of the individual, it is not advisable to leave your denominational church.


Maybe if you understood the implications of what is happening in government, you would understand the situation. You can't get this information from the controlled mainstream media today, but for years now scores of honorable military men have been resigning from the United States armed forces. They have been doing this in protest of its growing anti-constitutional practices. Among those practices is allowing millions of foreign and communist troops into the land under the pretext of training for combat, and for all its attempts to submit the sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations.


Our national leaders have then taken advantage of the debating climate they also have put us into by causing us to debate whether or not we should trust the Communist Chinese, along with the other communist nations which now claim to have changed. The United States government is now making many concessions to communist countries both openly and covertly against the American people. The purpose of debate here, as with everywhere else is to change us over to forbidden ideas.


How is it that so many Adventists do not understand that the presence of these Americans now leaving the military has been a major outward circumstance of that restraining force typified by the four angels holding the four winds of strife? How is it that they do not realize that the entrance of communists troops and people is a sign deeply related to that prophetic projection? The more these leave is the more the danger mounts, for they are being replaced!


The denominational establishment was entrusted to people who are Adventists. That means people who believe the truth. Those are the rightful owners of all its property. Dissidents are people who do not like the order of the church established by God. From the earliest times the church has suffered from the effects of dissidents because of their insatiable and natural desires to CHANGE THE CHURCH, as would naturally be the efforts of those who do not like it.


Therefore, the servant of the Lord has given us a message in the symbols, Alpha and Omega. Omega signifies that the time will come when dissidents will use the utmost strategy toward securing their ends by infiltrating church and state. They will then force the good ones into the seclusion and abhorred places that they came from, thus deceiving honest people into not being able to tell the difference.



"The totalitarian regime often concludes that the challenges presented by the presence of Christianity can be better handled by other means than violence. Taking 'active measures'--to use the typical euphemistic language--carries with it the disadvantages associated with creating martyrdom and resistance at home and diplomatic defeats abroad. Usually the regime prefers to attain its ends by softer means, by controlling the churches and minimizing the damage that might come from Christian challenges to its legitimacy. Or even better, by turning the churches into tools usable for the consolidation and expansion of state power." -- A Fragrance of Oppression, p. 75

". . . So what they would do is infiltrate the churches, and turn them into a tool that the state could then use."
-- Bob Trefz, Adventist Scholar, former professor in Adventist educational institutions.

 

 

 

 

 

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