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The Adventist Apostle of Ecumenism The Unique Ministry of Felix Lorenz, Jr.

SANDRA FURUKAWA

 

 

The following article represents the constant unbending song on the Atoday (Adventist Today forum believe it or not!) as more and more people and pastors talk about how they have discovered something new or "new light" and that new light always leads towards uniting with all the other churches. What is wrong with uniting with the other churches? Before that is answered, ask yourselves why none of the Protestant Churches even dreamed of allowing something like this UNTIL NOW! When you find the answer to that question, you will be more than getting warm?

 

But here we are about to witness one Felix Lorenz, Jr. who happens to be an SDA minister, but miraculously also a minister for the United Church of Christ. Such a situation appears to be without precedent as must happen just before any traumatic revolution.

 

His mission is just like all the rest: to show that it can be done, and to hide his ultimate goal of making sure that it MUST BE DONE!!

 

And can you imagine how a person can be a minister for the Adventist Church and yet for the United Church of Christ? One keeps Sunday and the other keeps Saturday as the Sabbath! How can that be done? How can two come together who are not agreed? It is clear, as is the case with all ecumenicals that doctrine not only is not important, but it "DIVIDES?" It

 

Below are our comments. As you read, focus on the judgmental ability of Mr. Lorenz. Ecumenicals always enter crying out for the right to disagree and to have free beliefs, but they are deceivers. You think Mr. Lorenz favors free beliefs and the right to disagree? If you think so, keep a close watch on the words he uses to describe those who will not accept his ideas. That is a rule of thumb you must use on all ecumenicals. Watch closely as he is described by Sandra Fuwukawa, and then he gives his own words:

 

 

 

 


 

A Seventh-day Adventist pastor of non-SDA churches for over 36 years, Felix Lorenz, Jr. has been both a devout Adventist and a member of the United Church of Christ (UCC) since 1963. His dual membership in the SDA church and UCC is both a matter of concern for some Adventists and an inspiration for others. A public relations professional by education and experience, Lorenz--who insists on not being addressed as "Pastor," or by any such title--describes his ministry as "putting Seventh-day Adventism in a favorable light and witnessing as a Seventh-day Adventist to non-Adventists."

 

Now retired from public relations, business and education, Lorenz serves full-time as a minister to two small churches, St. Paulıs United Church of Christ and Dearborn Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), both in Dearborn Heights, Michigan. He began pastoring them in 1990, after spending 15 years as associate minister of Cass Methodist Church in Detroit's inner city, then six years as minister of historic Old St. Johnıs UCC, and a brief time as interim minister of Greenfield and Breckenridge Congregational churches. He also currently serves as chaplain for the Wayne County Sheriff and the Wayne County Emergency Response Team and is active in many religious and civic organizations, openly and publicly proclaiming his Adventist faith.In addition to all this, Felix has been an active member of the Plymouth Adventist church for over 25 years. He has served as its elder, head elder, choir director, and chairman of the school board, until critics recently stopped his participation out of opposition to his dual membership. This 78-year-old self-described "tentmaker" says, "My membership in the United Church of Christ does not violate Seventh-day Adventism, in policy or in principle. I am proud to be part of the UCC, proud of its history. Dual membership is in no way a repudiation of my Adventism. Unusual? Yes, my ministry is unique, structured only for me." He goes on, "It is not a ministry for new seminary graduates but only for a mature Adventist. I know the Bible, the Spirit of Prophecy and Adventism as well as any of my critics. I am a fourth-generation, lifelong Seventh-day Adventist. I taught Bible doctrines and Daniel and the Revelation at Madison College and in several academies. Incidentally, the meditations in my church bulletins have for more than 20 years been quotes from Ellen G. White, usually from The Desire of Ages."

 

Since 1944, back when he was just a young man of 22, Lorenz has been a self-supporting lay preacher, inspired by the example of the apostle Paul. During 1949-53, he attended the SDA Theological Seminary, then in Washington, D.C. There he was told that his goal of becoming a self-supporting Adventist minister was not really an option, and upon the advice of his dean, he eventually went into public relations so he would have a vocation with which to make a living while serving as a lay minister. Working in public relations has paid his bills at times, but out of his commitment to be self-supporting Lorenz has also worked as a greenhouse transplanter, electrician, surveyor, mechanical contractor, symphony orchestra musician, taxi driver, driving instructor, registered music therapist, radio disc jockey, and singing evangelist, to name just a few of his many occupations. Still, throughout the years, his two main occupations have been teaching and the ministry.

 

"After 55 years of ministry, [Lorenz] is still effective. What is he emphasizing? To take Jesus literally and seriously. Make Jesus real in your life. Don't judge others. Love everyone unconditionally, even those who are different. Donıt be dogmatic; rather be open-minded. Celebrate the love of God. Celebrate life by being positive and healthy," former student Gerald Morgan affirmed via e-mail. A former Presbyterian Youth minister, he now belongs to one of Lorenz's current churches.

 

"Are these SDA teachings? I donıt know," says Morgan. "What Felix demonstrates, teaches, preaches, and talks, he presents as the teachings of Christ, not the teachings of a particular sect. That's not to say he avoids SDA distinctives. Each week's bulletin carries a paragraph penned by Ellen G. White. He has given me several books and tapes from SDA publishing houses and has gently urged me to honor the Sabbath. The distinctives do not seem to be central to Felix's ministry, although he makes it clear they are important to him. He is not belligerent or dogmatic about SDA distinctives, so I respond well to his overall ministry. From what I observe, others do as well."

 

At first, Lorenz worked primarily within Adventist institutions. He pastored two Adventist churches, performed as a singing evangelist, directed Adventist choirs, taught music and Bible at Adventist academies, and taught music, Bible and speech at Madison College. Eventually, however, several key incidents caused him to drastically change the direction of his ministry.While doing graduate work in theology at Vanderbilt, Lorenz studied under Dr. Nels Ferre, a Congregational minister and a Methodist layman. He encouraged Lorenz to go into a similar ministry, which the younger man just could not fathom at the time. Several years later, Lorenz and his wife, Lucille, moved to Detroit, where he worked with Henry Warren, a Methodist conscientious objector, social activist and pacifist, who became a major influence in Lorenz's eventual conversion to social activism and pacifism. In 1963, Lorenz was introduced to Gordon Outlaw, a devout Christian who told him that God wanted him to be at Cass Methodist Church. Understandably skeptical, the young Adventist lay minister was ultimately persuaded that God wanted him to be a Methodist minister, even though he and his wife were members of the Farmington Adventist church. Lorenz began preaching concurrently in both churches; every other Sabbath at Farmington, alternate Sabbaths in the many other Adventist churches in the area, and most Sunday mornings or Wednesday evenings at Cass.

 

It was the beginning of both an ecumenical ministry and inner-city involvement for Lorenz, who began to take seriously the Sermon on the Mount. In hindsight, he sees his faith journey as having changed him from a right-wing Republican to a left-wing social activist, from a competitive capitalist to a "co-op" enthusiast, from a triumphalist to an "ecumaniac." He concedes that it has been trying and very painful but, again like Paul, believes that the rewards have far outweighed the cost. In the spirit of Paul, who continued his work despite criticism and persecution by the Pharisees, Lorenz continues to minister to those to whom he feels he was called. And finally, like his mentor, he uses his writings to minister: according to his records, he publishes 425 copies of his weekly sermon, which are mailed out and read by about 150 Adventists as well as non-Adventist ministers, Catholic priests and nuns, and at least one avowed atheist.

 

"I think a whole lot of Felix and have a great deal of confidence in his ministry," stated Pastor LeRoy Leiske (an Adventist minister) in a telephone interview. "He's a very broad-minded Christian. He has a heart big enough to love people of all denominations. I know he's had problems with [certain] churches but he has withstood it all and is a full-fledged member of our church ministering to people who are not members of our church. Itıs an opportunity to gain a great blessing. God loves Felix." Leiske also confirmed that Felix is presently undergoing chemotherapy to deal with an ailment that Felix would probably prefer to dismiss as merely a "thorn in the flesh."

 

 

 

 

OUR RESPONSE:

 

 

 

 

This whole article and the typical nature of ecumenism is judgmentalism and despotism. Ecumenism is something that has been suggested and pushed well before the turn of the century, and back then, as now, it was an exclusively papal concept. For all those years ecumenism was not accepted. Why then are we told that we are narrow-minded, and hate other Christians and don't love God or others and other such antichristian fables? Look how many other generations must be lost because they did not fall for ecumenism as we have not fallen for it yet.

And how can we convince all these people on Atoday and in our church that uniting with other churches under control and power doesn't save?

Uniting involves far more than working together. In every professing Adventist discussion forum I participated in, they all told me that the Adventist Church cannot join with the other churches unless she gives up her doctrines and beliefs. Now things are becoming more bold as we are being told that we HAVE TO unite with these other churches and give up our beliefs. One owner of a professing Adventist discussion forum told me that I have to give up my beliefs because I am hindering the working of the Holy Spirit in the church. That forum claimed to host ALL BELIEFS, and that people were free to express all beliefs. Because the forum owner did not like my beliefs, he then attacked me, kicked me out and refashioned the forum because he claimed he was tired of people "attacking others."

We really need to know who and where truly are the dogmatic people who are not content to have a world where most all the churches are ecumenical except one. One cannot be tolerated so that a diverse idea can prevail. Is it better for one to die than for the entire world to be thrown into chaos because it is already fashioned in wrong principles? Will that be the ultimate conclusion?

Christ had far other things on His mind than uniting churches. There were the Disciples of John the Baptist, and yet, while Christ stated that Christians should all be one, He never possessed the weirdo insatiable despotic desire of so many now storming us today telling us that uniting the churches under rule saves a person. Christ did not even bring the hint that the two groups were to unite.

One of the Disciples told Jesus:

Mark 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

Christ did not tell them to tell the man that he must join with them and that in order for that to be done, the man has to give up his conscience and beliefs in order to cater with the dogmatic decrees of the bigger body.

In all this we see a Christ that is totally different in spirit, will and endeavor. This terrible desire to force the world to unite and to declare that those who refuse as just as dogmatic, forceful and tyrannical as the people demanding that all must unite cannot be the gospel that saves the world.

The bible tells us that when Christ comes, He is going to destroy the world. In Rev. 13, it tells us why, for it tells us that "ALL THE WORLD" will worship the beast and the dragon, and that they will COMPEL all to worship the beast. Will the Christian world be included in this?

We can know by a certain unkind statement that the Lord presents to us in scripture. He says:

Amos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

Who are these that desire the day of the Lord? This scripture is being given to God's people, and it is only God's people who would be doing this. This is specifically targeted to God's people in the last days for these are the ones who will be looking for His coming. Why then does it say WOE UNTO YOU?

That is because in the last days confusion, lies and darkness will be pushed upon the world. The Christian world will be deceived by people forcing us to unite and telling us in so many actions that uniting in bureaucracy will save a person. Many other scriptures show us the result of this uniting by telling us that when Christ comes, all the tribes of the earth will mourn and that many will wail because of Him.

When Christ comes, shall he find faith on the earth? Luke 18:8. And yet we are told that when Christ comes, conditions will be similar to the days of Noah, and during those days only EIGHT souls were saved. None of this conveys the idea that truth or peace is found in the majority. Neither can we believe that the true gospel is around us while they are demanding that we stop preaching the important revelations God has given to us, telling us that in preaching them, we are not preaching the pure gospel.

 

 

 

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